Therefore, following an overall base coat, details can be added or picked out using enamel and/or acrylic paints. Re: Using Tamiya PS-55 flat clear with TS paints I've posted many times on this, as long as you use a PS paint against the lexan, and let it dry thoroughly, you can use any enamel or acrylic over the top, and it won't crack, but preparation is key also. Any idea why? The Tamiya Clear Flat varnish has been around for some years John. Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. i find that after spraying a glossy protection then finishing up with a flat clear, the finish still has that shiny look to it due to the glossy protection. I like the Tamiya Flat Clear but I also like the Citadel Purity Seal varnish. Not truly flat and just the right amount of sheen for me. It will become soluble again and smear all over your fig. I also use MM flat lacquer. I've just used that stuff on my Ta152 Terry so take a look at how it finishes. So i mixed 2 parts Tamiya clear, with 1 part Tamiya Flat base and 1 part thinner. I don't use the Tamiya clears so was not to familiar with what you are useing. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. Why bother with ratios and praying for good luck? I want to get it back to flat. I've never tried it since I still have enough PollyScale flat coat but once I've run out of PollyScale will give XF-86 a bash since I also you Tamiya acrylics. The project was the feathers on a winged jump pack (the BA clam pack chaplain to be exact). Has anyone used this? 19K. If you’re using repro decals (the decent ones that used to be available, not the tat that passes for them on eBay now), then lacquering over the decals – especially if they were a bit matt looking – makes them look sharper, shinier, and therefore better integrated into the finish as a whole. I used to mix my own matt or semi-matt clear coats, using a mix of 'Future' and Tamiya Flat Base, the amount of FB determining the degree of matt, from full matt, via semi-matt to semi-gloss. Like any other paint you dont want to just flood it on in one gloppy thick coat. Three things you could try. Im thinking of painting my R91Cp flat black and was going to use the PS-55 Flat Clear to turn it matt. That is Tamiya Flat Clear painted over Tamiya Orange TS12. In this tutorial we take a look airbrushing Tamiya Acrylic PaintsFor early access to all my videos before general release and shootouts in all my videos. If you want an acrylic, Model Master has an acrylic gloss, semi-gloss, and flat. Use ACE brand non spar varnish.Or any brand of non spar varnish flat. As mentioned, I used to mix Future and Tamiya Flat Base, then Humbrol Clear Gloss with the FB after the change to the formula for Future in the UK. Spray it on in light coats. This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. 687. producing kits. Oddly, I've had problems with the Tamiya Gloss Clear not drying completely but not the Flat Clear. Only 13 left in stock - order soon. Its still makes that white powder finish all over my model and didnt really make it flat? I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. The Tamiya Clear Flat varnish has been around for some years John. On the Bench:  Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge - 70%. You can thin it out about 50/50. Now I have a shiny F-16. I guess you missed my post stating that I use MM flat acrylic. The bottles have white labels and are a little larger than the standard model master size. Farbinfo. I'll try this, too. Sold by Aidleyco and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. I also use MM mixed about 50/50 and no problems at all. Tamiya flat clear rattle can, no thinning. Tamiya Clear Flat is a great place to start to get that interesting satin finish. I'm merely asking about the Tamiya ratios because I have a bottle and have never tried it. I have only recently started using Flat base with future. Using a clear coat is mainly used for protection and presentation. Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!! I will try this next time. TeK. I've never understood the fascination with using this  product. Can Tamiya X-22 clear gloss be used over enamel? and I think when you mix it with paints you only use a small amount just to take off the gloss, The paint itself reminds me of a ink called "Tinting Medium" when I worked as a printer we used it instead of white ink. TAMIYA 87131 Panel Line Accent Color Black For Plastic Model Kit $10.50. Has anyone used Tamiya's clear flat? I'm afraid that is going to ruin one of my builds if I keep using the gloss+Flat Base combo. Painting Questions, Tutorials and Guidebooks. Hi Larry Yes, absolutely no problem. As this is for a car, its a bit out of my area, i only want enough of a gloss to apply decals. When airbrushing make sure to use any of the following Tamiya thinners: 81020, 81030, 81040, 81520, 87077. Details. Apply, let dry 15 minutes before applying another coat. Tamiya gloss, but I am a bit gun-shy about trying it on a car build painted with enamels that I am near to finishing. What a cool look! will i able to use tamiya xf-86 flat clear as protection on my tank? The Flat Base is designed to turn Gloss paint... flat. “Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”. I use this more than … Turn a gloss paint flat so you can make it glossy again to apply decals then mix up a devil's brew of flat base and floor polish to bring it, hopefully, back to a flat without ruining the decals with a … The number 1use in Japan for flat base is to mix with X-20 for Flat Finishes, On that note Tamiya recommends you use the spray cans for flat clear coats, don't ask, I don't know why!!! TS80 Flat Clear is useful to clear coat glossy paint finishes that you desire to have a final flat look. I agree, 25% max, excluding thinner. 290 164. I made that mistake the first time. "Firing flares while dumping fuel may ruin your day" SH-60B NATOPS. ForumerDeletedUser. Imagin my dismay when the brown wash I had used floated up and made the whole figure look muddy. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people.". RichMacer. 290 164. RichMacer. I have a externally vented spray booth so use ordinary lacquer thinner for cleanup, but before I had the vented booth I used Windex. ForumerDeletedUser. But the usual two or three light coats works fine with both the gloss and flat sprays. View our. JavaScript is disabled. I would have thought you would paint the inside with it first, then paint over it. Some Advice on Using Tamiya Clear through Airbrush | Military Modelling. Going to the one you need for answers is a lot easier and more people check out the Forums they're interested in. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. It will not go well over enamels, but on acrylics it is fine. I have found no good way of getting rid of that chalky white after it appears and I've gone as far as spraying straight gloss on it. K.I.S.S. I use the Tamiya sprays over dried Tamiya acrylics all the time with no problem. Name: Flat Clear: Farbe: TS-80 (85080) Typ: Lacquer: Finish: Matt (Transparent) Verpackung: Spray can (100ml) Bereich: Tamiya: Farbbetrachter (beta) Feature in beta, time to complete depends on amount of diapers I need to change :) RGB value: #ffffff. The Purity seal because it makes the edging look much than the model on the left. Being new to using Tamiya paints, I have seen some posts re. I was considering trying it but will not if it has even a hint of tendency to get "chalky white". Tamiya X-20A thinner, and yes you can mix Tamiya Clear Gloss with Clear Flat or even Flat Base, but DO NOT use Flat base as a stand alone clear flat. Any advice will be appreciated Larry. Equally problematic were the English directions Tamiya used to provide...exactly the same as with their regular paint. Ah, so that's why I could not get my Clear Gloss to work. 687. 100% deckend . X designated colors have a glossy finish while XF designated colors are flat finish. 19K. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. Tamiya Flat Clear Spray These days high gloss is not the finish that always turns heads. Sold by Model Merchants and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. By combining the use of these three types of paints, the finishing of plastic models becomes simpler and more effective. Flat Clear TS-80 - 100ml. I think careful wet-sanding with superfine grit and spraying TS-80 clear flat as a final coat can give a better look. Turn a gloss paint flat so you can make it glossy again to apply decals then mix up a devil's brew of flat base and floor polish to bring it, hopefully, back to a flat without ruining the decals with a film of white chalk. Tamiya spray paints are not affected by acrylic or enamel paints. For best results allow up to one week. 'Gem' on flat surfaces (Tamiya Clear) - posted in Painting Tutorials: After trying and failing to get satisfactory results using the Citadel gem paints (soul stone blue, etc.) Is there a better way to turn a gloss finish flat? If you have questions or problems about painting in the future, go to the Painting Forum. Just to create a flat finish, I would go with some other waterbased product - like Microscale, Pollyscale, or Vallejo. As far as I'm aware, Tamiya Clear Flat is a varnish, but their Flat Base is the mixer. The Tamiya because it brings out the red color better than the model on the right. A trick to get a better finish is to spray a mist coat of straight thinner right after the clear coat, this helps it level out nicely and get a smoother finish. I didn't want to over do it and only added a few drops to a cup on future and I found that was plenty. Do NOT use the Tamiya Flat black and think you will be able to cover it with this clear finish. I want to spray it gloss, apply washes and decals then a satin/flat final finish, I have used Tamiya and lifecolor acrylic paints on this ship. Maybe it reacts with them. 25% flat base is too much?, ignoring the thinner that's 33%. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I like to try different products to see which one works best. Post 4:54 PM - Jun 25 #2 2020-06-25T16:54. I have also tried other Xtra-acrylix Satin, & that was a disaster, so you are not alone. I do have a battery powered paint stirrer which might help but otherwise I mix approx half and half with x20a thinner and spray away. More and more, modeler's are looking for the flat look. TeK. I've yet to find anything that works better for me than Alclad's matte coats, specifically 312 and 314. FREE Shipping on orders over $25.00. I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. Sometimes you can get unique effects combining flat parts with glossy parts. Hey everyone, I have a can of Tamiya TS-80 flat clear and right on the top of the cap it sais not to spray on decals and stickers. The finish will be nice and smooth and flat. Having read that last article, I would guess the problem is the Future - when the formula changed in the UK, I got. Try a higher psi like 20-25 and hold the airbrush farther away than you normally do. I believe the Flat Clear is nothing but Gloss Clear with some amount of Flat Base in it. I've been using it for years with great results. I've used all 3 and they work well, use them just like any paint, no need to mess around with getting the right ratio. When I hand brush figures I put a drop of the stuff in whit val paints to keep from getting shinny spots from to many brush strokes. on flat surfaces I pulled out my Tamiya Clear paints (red, green and blue) that I had bought long ago but little used. TAMIYA … East Mids Model Club 29th Annual Show 19th MAY 2019. I've always used the tamiya clears and never had an issue. Our community is FREE to join. I also agree by using Alclads flat base because it dries fast. I haven't used Tamiya clear, but have used old-formula Future, mixed in an old 35mm film can, with sealable lid, about 10%  for flat, 5% for satin. I cant seem to get this stuff to work correctly. I guess I'll bin that stuff. You could try multiple coats, but i am sure the car guys might have some useful tips. Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. I was able to handle the model within 10 minutes but I avoid doing so for several hours and, even then, use facial tissues where I grasp the model. Reply. I mixed it 50/50 with Tamiya thinner and it went on with no problems. Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80. Thanks Geo. It's very existence makes no sense. Might at … i dont really wanna spray it with any glossy protection such as future/tamiya clear. Post May 20, 2008 #2 2008-05-20T01:09. Check out the model in the picture rotation. It's that easy. I find though that the more you put on, the more chance you will have of getting a bit of chalking so small amounts are good. If you edit the title of your thread and ask for help getting a gloss finish on cars, you might catch there attention. Crossed posts with Geo. In the past I usually just used Tamiya spray can clears such as TS 13 which have worked well for me. This item: TAMIYA TS-80 Clear Flat Spray 100ml $12.29. Details. modelling diva. Not much help; but that's the two things which stood out to me. This is one of the few things I learned in my brief insurance man career several decades ago. I glossed up my F-16 to apply the decals, then glossed again to seal. I used it on a Treant figure I painted for my wife. Toss the flat base and get some one step flat finishing product, Dullcoat, or the acrylics mentioned above. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. You'll get quicker answers and probably a lot more of them. You do have to be careful of it over SOME enamel paints. I just thin with clean water and have had no drying time issues. Not that I can help much Terry, being a brush painter and have used Tamiya Flat for years with great results except for my GB Catalina which was a disaster and has got me skeptical about using it again. Getting clear coats right is definately a 'black-art'. I have a bottle of the Tamiya flat but have not used it. Carefully sand down the coat with a fine grit sand paper/ polishing cloth to cut through the refraction of the flat coat. I wish I could get some Polly S/Floquil matte finish again. Allow the paint to be clear-coated to fully cure before applying TS80. Apparently you paint the outside of the body, is it durable? Check out the list of our Forums. It always helps to try out ur technique on a scrap piece of painted plastic first. You must log in or register to reply here. To participate you must either login or register for an account. It's filled with paint. Airbrush . You can use X-21 as a clear cote as long as you use future with it about 2/3 future with 1/3 X-21 and apply with a fine mist. I find 5% - 10% works, depending on the base. The paint can be thinned for airbrushing using Tamiya X-20A Acrylic thinner. EDIT: Another tutorial for brush-painting flat colors mentioned to use a separate dry brush after every coat for absorbing the wet streaks. Post May 20, 2008 #1 2008-05-20T00:28. So about 10% -15% to Future ratio will give a dead flat finish? It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. I'm considering trying it out and am wondering how well it compares to Testors acrylic clear flat. Light coats are best. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. The paint can be also thinned for airbrushing using Tamiya Lacquer Thinner. In Stock. Protection being your paint won't scratch off as easily, (this is especially true for acrylic paint base coats) and presentation being glossy or flat. When using Tamiya Clear Flat (matt varnish. You could try (test first) spraying a clear gloss coat in order to fill in some of the refractive parts of the flat coat. I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here. More info: View Encycolorpedia - #ffffff. You could try this, which has worked exceptionally well for me for years, but the last time I tried it (on the P-47), I got a few areas where it 'speckled' and/or went chalky. Honestly, most of the time, I use Tamiya Clear Flat Lacquer in a spray can. FREE Shipping on orders over $25.00. Falcon, to get a nice flat finish, get a spray can of Testors Dullcoat. This should give a nice, streak-free surface after just few coats. 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