I constantly let people run me over, say what they want and I never defend myself. They are the people he called, because that was his plan. It has opened doors for ministry. 1. When something happens to someones child what does it usually make someone else do? Am I mad at God? Joseph, I take it that you think that throwing children into ovens is wrong? He will fight for you and his Son .Believe in his Son. These are very difficult things to understand, but the Bible does give some clues. We suffer collectively as the children of Adam, bearing the penalty of his unbelief, which is the evil and suffering we experience in this life. I am tired of the abundance of unintelligent thoughts I hear on this subject and it is refreshing to hear somebody dig with a considerable depth into this issue. All I’m saying is, pray. Pain in the body exists to alert us to some abnormality in our physical person. Instead, He forewarned the man and allowed him to decide for himself. It’s not for us to understand why the past has its history, we look back and give thanks that we learned, and corrected with God’s grace. This is love? PAIN IS A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING. In my senior year of High School, they began to rapidly increase in frequency and severity. God originally placed Adam and Eve in a state of bliss with no problems of any kind. He created, gave life, put order, assigned man to govern everything, and warned him of the danger that eating what is forbidden brings. Just like athletes workout, train, and practice all offseason long so that when the season starts, they will be in top form to play the games that count. And so God goads us, but He also guides us with the pain that we have in our lives. Sometimes, God has to really get our attention to open our eyes that we can’t do this life without HIM. How can it be wrong or evil, if there is no God. Tell me, how is this different from an insurance broker coming to you claiming to sell you the best package that will give you return in the long term. Now we ask: what's the role of God in the coming of death and pain in the world? It exists so that we will recognize there is a problem, allowing us to address and rectify the cause. I can imagine him thinking “man i came to you to fix my wrist not break it worse. It exists so that we will recognize there is a problem, allowing us to address and rectify the cause. Sin is sin, and will always have dire consequences. i am suffering from migraines too also I had cancer and a lot of other issues.what was the cause for migraines ?i feel like i am stuck and not progressing in finding causes for my illnesses….what can i do?what does god wants me to realize?i would be so grateful for your help. If He's good, why allow pain and suffering? She knew the Lord, and even if she didn’t, I’m sure she cried out to him in her desperation. Sometimes the purpose is to prepare us for some greater trial we will face down the road. Now, of course, we are all of those things. If you're wondering why God allows us to experience pain and failures, let me encourage you: He loves you, that's why He allows them to happen. Its a crappy situation where I know people who never dealt with this personally are going to spew ‘helpful’ and ‘loving’ responses meant to ‘comfort me’. My very best efforts got me to the Home of Grace, but the fact that God allows me to participate with him in ministry makes everything I’ve ever been through worth it. God promises a time when there will be no more crying, no more tears, no more pain and suffering, when we will be reunited with God in perfect harmony, forever. He returned for a follow up visit several weeks after his initial visit. Thousands of years later He would give up His one and only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, for us to be saved from sin and be restored to Him who loved us so much (see John 3:16). If they could speak to us, they would probably say, “Stop worrying, sillies! A friend who needs Christ may accept Him because you believed that God would continue to work through you—even in the midst of your pain. He said, “My child, don’t make light of the Lord’s discipline, and don’t give up when he corrects you. He wouldn’t have been able to help me identify issues that had crippled me emotionally my entire life, and would have continued to do so for the rest of my life had they not been identified and addressed. God wants us to realize that and freely do what is good and right by our own choice, not because He is forcing us to. I find myself angry at God, not for personal tragedy or suffering, because my life has been pretty blessed. What am I going to change by being mad? God’s purpose is always to help us realize a life fulfilled. He wants us to be the very best we can be. I pray for your encouragement and grace to sustain them during this season of sorrow. At the time there was no chaos, no pain, no suffering. A loving and caring God would NEVER allow the Holocaust….his own people per the Bible. What a profound steaming load of psycho-babble crap. Knowing this, He created us anyway because He wanted to show His love that much. I would never have been able to walk through without my life unfolding exactly how it has. Your choice. I ended up in the emergency room about once a week until finally, my head hurt all day every day. (see Genesis 3). The fact that you see it as evil gives you some idea that there is right and wrong in this world, that knowledge brings you pain, just as it does God. Because God was with Him. Now, before you respond, you first need to have been molested for 10+ years as well. Only when you walk into the Valley of profound pain and you give yourself to GOD will you understand. I am not saying I have arrived yet because I haven’t. God sometimes allows sin and/or Satan to cause physical suffering. Satan does not get the final call. I may not see how life’s circumstances accomplish that, but I don’t have to. Ladies and gentlemen, the problem is not with God. For the Lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child.”. We are all evil, children included. I trust in Him, ESPECIALLY when I don’t understand. That’s a great thought. I’m doing GREAT!” When we trust in Christ, that will be us one day, too. We can read in Isaiah 48:10 that “I have refined you, though not as silver; I have … Consider what God told Paul when he was in pain: "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." God allows pain and suffering and evil because He has a plan, and He’s working His plan. Don’t miss important news and updates from the Home of Grace. On the other hand, God invites us to draw near to him that we might experience his peace, healing, and closeness and this is what Scripture points us towards. I pray for you, that you can experience this eternal joy without walking through the Valley of pain. If you weren’t you have no clue what Im dealing with. I understand how trials can refine our faith. I have also suffered severe and prolonged torture, the nature of which is irrelevant to the discussion here. I just dont get it. It has helped me to understand and truly empathize with the addict and their family. Yes I’ve had two traumas Two different days and both at work and I wish never happen. Yes. After realizing the weight of our decisions, we are then given the opportunity to grow wise – or not, it depends on us. It does my no good to be mad at him. I know why evil exists, I just don’t understand why God would allow severe suffering? GOD FEELS NO PAIN. Friends, we live in a broken world marred with sin. In doing so, we get to know the consequences of what we choose to do and realize that our free will is not something to take lightly. I don’t see why I would ever want to go back to being godless, that was an empty life, and I want to be closer to the Lord, but I am angry about this one issue, and I need a better answer. 3 Reasons Why God Allows Pain And Failure In Our Lives, Do you want award-winning journalism with a, New Mexico church responds to $10K fine for holding services amid COVID-19, Ohio Gov. Our Pain Has a Greater Purpose. First, pain is part of the curse of sin in a fallen world. At that time, man's diet consisted of fruits, but he didn't complain because that was how it used to be (see Genesis 2:15-17). By the way, Jesus was God manifested in the flesh. Actually, it has made me weak. Focusing next on physical evil, the question can be stated as: "If there is a good God, why are there pain, suffering and death in the world?" Above all, Peter wants us to remember that we are not alone. To do so would be wicked, but “God does not act wickedly.” —Job 34:12. God gave us free will and wants us to exercise it. I could not function when one hit. Let me offer three answers: 1) To let us see the gravity of our choices. It might even cost Chuck the correct usage of that wrist and hand, maybe permanently. When we grow wise through experience, we can become a people able and willing to choose what pleases the Lord. I was a kid, innocent. My faith in God is not up for debate, He touched me, and I’ll never be the same. The difficult thing for me is I BELIEVE in God! What people dont understand is I…DONT…WANT…TO..ACCEPT..THIS. Romans 8:28-29 “We know that in everything God works for the good of those who love him. GOD took every last bit of it away. You may feel isolated and struggle to face old pain and trauma. God’s purpose is always to help us realize a life fulfilled. Prescription drug abuse is a serious problem in this country, one which has led to thousands of overdoses and has. The other and ultimate source of every pain is God, who “declares the end from the beginning” (Isaiah 46:10) and “does whatever pleases him” (Psalm 135:6). My body will never be the same It is broken and missing, I just wish who ever wrote this article and one like these understood there is real pain out there of all kind, until you’ve been bless with pain and it’s not a blessing. To pretend we know what is best in a situation is not only incredibly naive, but it is rebellion. From my own personal experience, after my suffering and talking to GOD, did he respond. God uses pain to see what we're like on … He also knew that the only way to repair it after we broke it was through sacrifice. Physical Evil Illness, pain, earthquakes, floods, and other natural disasters are examples of physical evils. And if you’re a recovered addict. I have a good friend, Chuck D. A while back he broke his wrist. This is the Christian “Get out of Jail” card…the “God’s plan” excuse, the distant cousin to the “his timing” excuse. I firmly believe God will accomplish the exact same outcome in each of our lives if we will trust and abide in him, even through the pain, especially through the pain. Me too, JESUS CHRIST !!! What was I going to do to stop it? That's the reason why many are on drugs. This past December (2016) made 20 years that I have had a migraine headache almost every single day (i can count about five days in those 20 years that I didn’t have a headache). He allowed the doctor to explain that Chuck’s wrist wasn’t healing correctly. God Uses Pain to Gauge Us. His motive behind all of the pain is…It's for our good. What we think is fair or reasonable isn’t exactly reliable. My addiction grew out of treatment under a doctor’s care for the headaches. No doubt God allows struggles and pain,He also has blessed us with mercy ,grace and communion with fellow believers and through the fellowship and listening to God in prayer peace WILL come . Why? I didn’t know the answer, but I prayed for an answer. Pray to him, with what is left of your faith and I’m sure he’ll give you an answer that will satisfy you. I had no idea what to do at the time. Bless you. Addison, thank you for expressing my thoughts and saving me the effort having to explaining them myself. Point of the story is God puts people through pain to teach them and people around them a lesson and if they have faith in God’s decision then they will understand it all one day. And when my finger got ripped off my body the second after I looked to the sky and said REALLY. I ask that you would bring people alongside them to comfort and help sustain them. He clothed them (see Genesis 3:21). Let me explain. Instead, He uses your suffering to dispense His power. Waiting for 60 years to pass before I have some revelation as to why this horrible and awful situation will turn into something beautiful and amazing and will even save someone from the same situation? Instead, He uses your suffering to dispense His power. There is an eternal wisdom; a reasonal argument that provides context for all that mankind has experienced in the way of suffering.”. If my suffering is going to protect someone else, why didnt someone ELSEs suffering protect me?? This being said it forces us to rely on and trust God more than ever, instead of being focused on the question of why does God allow pain? In the same way, God imputes to us, or transfers in a way, the righteousness of Christ to us through faith in him. He will set all things right in the end. I am totally in a state of true confusion when it comes to the torture and murder of children, I cannot fathom what great lesson is being taught to an infant or young child who it’s being tormented brutally. This does not mean that we will no longer suffer in this world, but it does mean that we will spend eternity with God. Preach about what you understand from your life’s lessons and not from a book but from the heart…. The thought has crossed my mind if He hadn’t allowed me to be born with this condition I wouldn’t have gotten addicted and caused all of the pain and heartache I caused. I have been through so much in my life which was cause by my own family and friends someone that I talk to everyday that I trusted betrayed me in the most hurtful way I was mad at God at first but now I thank God because if he had not giving me a vision to know who my enemies were ,God knows where I be today it is hard but he’s real. God has the power to prevent suffering and calamity--so why does He allow it? Following your exact logic, is he actually helping you because after you got scammed once, you won’t get scammed again in the future? Im not even going to ask, “Where was God?” because I know all the typical responses to questions like that… “Well, life is a mystery” and “We may not know the answer this side of heaven” and “It has made you a stronger person” and etc etc. And His power cannot rest upon you unless you’ve abandoned the idea that you’re big enough to go it alone. Preparing this person to someday be my footstool? I read a devotional to get back to my faith. Finally, there is a correcting purpose of pain. Kids getting thrown in the oven, those kids are now in paradise with their creator and they know that their pain was put on them for a reason. And have you forgotten the encouraging words God spoke to you as his children? ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND AND TRUST GOD YOUR PAIN WILL EVENTUALLY GO AWAY. When I was three years old, I was diagnosed with migraine headaches. Physical freedom from sickness and pain, from poverty or adversity, came to mean little to Mary, while God's presence became her highest goal. Our sole reason for existing is to have the extravagant love of God poured out on us. God knew that the only way to repair what man had broken (His relationship with us) was to send His only son, Jesus Christ to suffer and die for our sins. Fine. There is a day when all evil will be dealt with, yours, mine and those who committed the Holocaust. Pain in the body exists to alert us to some abnormality in our physical person. Pain has a purpose. He will always do what will be good for us (see Romans 8:28-30). Emotional, mental, and spiritual pain exist for the exact same purpose. When God casts off, though there is a feeling of separation, and something is lost that is not to be gained by any effort, still the truth remains that in God … When God created everything, He said it was all "good." Yes, life was simple, but there was no suffering. To see circumstances unfold in a way that displeases us, and to then shake our fist at The High King of Heaven, in disapproval, demonstrates a desire (whether conscious or subconscious) to place ourselves on the throne of God, dictating how things, we cannot possibly begin to fathom, should unfold. Our family, too, has been struggling through decades of emotional pain. I do not even think it’s fair to tell the parents whose kids has cancer that ”this is for your own good.” Just stop. What we go through might be because of what we choose, but God always has a good plan for us (see Jeremiah 29:11). I relate to Joseph above. We then can help other sufferers with what God taught us: “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God” (1 Corinthians 1:3–4). He sent His Son to be used, abused, betrayed, beaten, tortured, spit on, mocked, nailed to a cross, and killed, to save the very people who were responsible for all of the aforementioned abuse. God gave us that sense of right and wrong, along with the pain that comes from seeing man causing suffering to others. 5 In other words, the Bible has a … Man stayed awake by day and slept at night, and had a full day to rest at the end of the week. I also know what God’s motivations are behind the circumstances He allows in our individual lives. Addison, I felt deeply pained reading what you wrote. I’m not thankful for any of the pain, It make question GOD. Suffering is suffering, suffering is bad, full stop. If left as it was it could cause even more pain in the long run. So perhaps rather than acting all high and mighty as though you have some greater understanding of life and this world you need to humble yourself. But He warned them of the consequences of sin. I have only begun my journey of searching the mind of God for answers to questions of profound suffering that is too deep to articulate in a short web response here (suffice it to say “mental illness”). Ask Dr. Land: Why are people so excited by the arrival of a New Year? And it was not paid with mere gold or silver, which lose their value. When you run from God in seasons of challenge, all you’re left with is your own limited ability to cope with what you’re walking through. And God was…. Had I not battled addiction, I would never have gone to the Home of Grace and had David Caminiti as my counselor. In other words, it's a measuring tool. How Recovered Addicts Can Help Current Addicts, How Raising Animals Can Help You Stay Sober, What You Can Do to Combat Prescription Drug Abuse. So, how can a loving all-powerful God allow pain and suffering? Even when sickness is not directly from God, He will still use it according to His perfect will. When they sinned anyway, He decreed they would endure pain, suffering, hardship, and eventual death (Gen. 3:16-19). On Nov. 21, 1980, when the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas burned, survivors were brought into the Convention Center, where our Crusade meetings were being held. I’m not judging if there is or isn’t a god, I’m questioning the apparent lack of logic in your views. (see 2 Corinthians 12:9). Has there ever been a temptation to be angry at God? Believing in God, will always believe in God, grew up believing in God, turned out to be a pretty normal and kind person, and yet decades later im STILL SUFFERING from the decisions of one person. God does not cast off as men do. Can’t wait! He also knew this before the first word of creation was ever spoken. Such a difficult situation. But until youve been shoved to the ground repeatedly for a DECADE and used physically by another human being, you will have NO CLUE what it means to suffer emotionally and psychologically. I do not always know God’s specific purposes in a situation. They were debilitating. I didnt ask for this. It’s not for the things that happen to me that I’m disturbed by. I agree with the author he gives us pain for his glory. Going through a drug or alcohol detox can be extremely hard on your body and brain. So let us not consider anything we suffer unfair because we do not know the meaning of the word. When we make bad choices, He disciplines us to correct us, to bring us back into a closer walk with Him. I was frustrated as to why our Loving Father let that happen. And that is good enough for me. But why does God allow suffering? I had a guy comment to me this week about how some of the things I have written had helped him in his walk. In attempting to accomplish that we invited, and welcomed, sin into the world never realizing the permanent chasm it would fix between God and us. As you are already in faith, I won’t and am in no position to give you an answer. None. But there’s no guarantee I wouldn’t have developed the addiction through a broken tooth, or a kidney stone or something else. I believe in Him and His powers but I do not know if he is willing to heal me. Thank the Lord it wasn’t us then, but we live in peace now. Their is no amount of pain in one’s lifetime that isn’t worth it in the end. And yet, children are allowed to be thrown into ovens? Following the sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, sin and death entered humanity ( Genesis 3:16-19 ). The root of this evil is unbelief, and suffering is its fruit. To be honest about it, I've asked that question myself. Hebrews 12:5-6 – And have you forgotten the encouraging words God spoke to you as his children? God sees all of the trials that await us in this life. Bring your pain to God don’t run from him. The bible says, “though thy mother and father abandon you, still I will take you up.”. God, therefore, may allow some level of pain and suffering because he knows (and has communicated) the fleeting, short nature of our mortal experience. “If you have seen the Father, you have seen me.” Jesus never hurt anybody, condemned anyone to hell, or refused to help anyone who came to Him. … in heaven smiling down? A family friend repeatedly molested me for ten years. So.. whats the response to my post? I pray that this helps you, may GOD bless you! To show us that we direly need Him. I do know this, though: I would never have scripted my life this way when I was 16. Our sense of justice isn’t exactly dependable. Never again (in this life) would we be able to walk face to face with God in the cool of the day, through the garden of Eden He created for our pleasure and sustenance. It may BE unfair according to our standards, but our standards are flawed. Emotional, mental, and spiritual pain exist for the exact same purpose. Like I (or my pain) am a tool, for him to use in His purpose. It’s either Heaven or Hell. But I really like the way it’s going now. Will I walk away from the Lord, no, simply because I can’t, but I am looking to reconcile myself with this issue. Let us not fool ourselves into thinking what is fair, reasonable, or just. I often hear people ask this question, and others like it: “If God is so loving, why does he allow small children to get cancer?” And the truth is that from individual situation to individual situation, I don’t know. Remember pain comes in many forms, physical and mental (emotional). This is just an example. It was the precious blood of Christ, the sinless, spotless Lamb of God. We never ask that question about the pain and suffering of a life term sentence for someone who has committed murder — because, we understand it was a consequence of their actions, and we reason that they deserve it as a result of what they did. You need to realize that you’re not big enough; you’ll never make it without depending utterly upon Him and going in His strength. Why would God allow me to be in pain—I can’t DO anything for him like this. As Christians, part of our calling in life is to help those in need. It is a consequence of the biblical notion of sin—which one Christian author described as a disease that has entered the world through created beings refusing to accept their creaturely status. Me on the floor. Well, it isn’t me; it’s God. God chose him as your ransom long before the world began, but now in these last days he has been revealed for your sake. Why? 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